2008/03/28 - Dante's Inferno Tour & DiscussionThis is a featured page

This cleaned and abbreviated chatlog is made available with the permission of the participants.

Tour:


Meet & Greet.
Hunt ice cubes in hell.
Ride gondola to different levels of Hell.
Explore and collect information offerings.

Discussion:

[9:37] You shout: Shall we all gather at the bottom, and chat for a bit?
[9:40] Diva Regina: What a great job they did.
[9:40] You: They sure did!
[9:40] You: Is everyone here?
[9:41] You: For a bit of background,
[9:41] You: they put this up almost year ago
[9:41] You: but did not have a permanent place for it
[9:41] You: It was available for a wekk
[9:41] You: week
[9:41] You: they wanted to do it again
[9:41] You: and what makes it available now
[9:41] You: is generous donation of an island from a an anonymous donor
[9:42] You: Personally, I think that says something right there!
[9:42] Solobill Laville: Absolutely
[9:42] You: so, any thoughts or lessons learned about the educational / entertainment side of this?
[9:42] Memetic Projects: borg spam??
[9:42] You: sorry?
[9:43] Memetic Projects: m I the only one hearing that?
[9:43] Memetic Projects: am*
[9:43] You: oh, no audio sorry
[9:43] Memetic Projects: ahh right
[9:43] Bridget Jennings: I will confess I would enjoy this more if I knew th literature better
[9:43] Solobill Laville: Yes, I had to turn it up though
[9:43] Memetic Projects just turns it dow nthen :)
[9:43] Rudolfo Woodget: Does the Borg Queen belong in the Ninth Circle of Hell? Discuss among your selves.
[9:43] You: yes - I wish they had more exceprts from the translation embedded
[9:43] You: lol
[9:43] Solobill Laville: lol
[9:44] You: they are having a big contest for folks to build a Lucifer
[9:44] You: Um, are there idaes from this that would be good for us to remember in doing our own instruction in SL?
[9:44] You: Personally, I like the ice cubes :)
[9:44] Bridget Jennings: So do I
[9:45] Solobill Laville: What are all of your thoughts on hopping in and out? e.g. Youtube, websites, then back to SL?
[9:45] You: I like that they brought in outworld content
[9:45] Rudolfo Woodget: are there other ways of giving infomatoin than more and more notecards?
[9:45] Memetic Projects: I'm fine with that, but I would lie kto see it within SL browser instead
[9:45] You: yeah - and the notecards would be more helpful if they were more substantive
[9:46] You: now we have HTML on a Prim, which could change the nature of this build
[9:46] Solobill Laville: Yes, and yes, the audience in mind is the most important thing in terms of content richness I think.
[9:46] Bridget Jennings: I think there needs to be some type of advanced organizer for first time site vistors
[9:46] Memetic Projects: we do??
[9:46] You: Oh, good idea, Bridget!
[9:47] Memetic Projects: yah a HUD guide like at Play2Train
[9:47] You: MP, you can put HTML on a prim and it will display the web page
[9:47] Diva Regina: And for students who haven't done their prereading - even a bit of the narrative might help them be more engaged. I haven't read the Inferno in more years than I want to admit.
[9:47] Memetic Projects: Play*
[9:47] You: but not interactively
[9:47] You: you have to use media player to view the content
[9:47] You: all excellent ideas
[9:47] You: I hope it is OK if I share these with the builders
[9:47] Bridget Jennings: I have an off the topic question, why do some ice cubes resist beign picked up?
[9:47] You: OK, so those are ideas of how we would make it stronger
[9:47] You: what did they do that we would want to emulate?
[9:47] Memetic Projects: like the one in hte pool?
[9:48] Rudolfo Woodget: What I like is the connection to Linden Hills -- this seems like a more interesting way for students to get "up to speed" on Dante so they can better understand the Naylor novel
[9:48] Bridget Jennings: And the one near by (#9)?
[9:48] You: The ice cubes were just put here in the past day for our tour
[9:48] You: they are new
[9:48] Memetic Projects: it is below a mostly transparent prim, blocking the Touch
[9:48] You: they still need the bugs ironed out
[9:48] You: oh!
[9:48] Solobill Laville: Ahh...
[9:48] Memetic Projects: angle yer camera and you can Touch it.
[9:48] Bridget Jennings: So do I dig underground?
[9:48] You: #9 seems defective
[9:48] Solobill Laville: I think the textures are great - ambience, etc
[9:48] You: Eloise need to fix the script
[9:48] Bridget Jennings: Same thing
[9:49] You: yes
[9:49] Memetic Projects: yah
[9:49] You: and it is accurate
[9:49] Rudolfo Woodget: Bridg, Under View menu, do you have Camera Controls enabled?
[9:49] No room to sit here, try another spot.
[9:49] Bridget Jennings: I doi now
[9:49] Memetic Projects: this is a high-area sim, and they still have 2894/3631 prims avaialable
[9:49] You: :)
[9:49] Memetic Projects: They should build up the scenes
[9:50] You: This went live I think on Monday
[9:50] You: :)
[9:50] Solobill Laville: wow, that's amazing
[9:50] Rudolfo Woodget: that what I used to get to the ice cube hidden in the pool of molten Lava
[9:50] You: col!
[9:50] You: thanks, RW!
[9:50] Rudolfo Woodget: yes.. I read .. somewhere.. they only obtains the sim a week ago? that's hard to imagine!
[9:50] You: This is the second tour group I've been with this week :)
[9:50] Diva Regina: Missed that one. Thanks Rudo.
[9:51] Diva Regina: I'd like it if there were more signs with text instead of having to open notecards all the time.
[9:51] You: That is an idea
[9:51] Diva Regina: If you could zoom in on an "activity", you'd be more inclined to try it, I think.
[9:51] Rudolfo Woodget: I might consider, Lexi, organizing the note-givers a bit more -- a uniform look for 1) the story, 2) Instructors notes (which could be way smaller) 3) Interesting characters 4) Interesting monsters
[9:51] You: I think they did that to force their students into certain types of activitie or engagement, but I'm not sure
[9:52] You: NEAT!
[9:52] You: Very good!
[9:52] You: So next, I will try to get Desi to come talk with us about why they made the choices they did
[9:52] Solobill Laville: instructor's notes could just have and "I" or somesuch...
[9:53] Rudolfo Woodget: If you are someway limiting access to "students" would be nice to have notice boards with their comments, for others to read, rather than note cards only to the organizers
[9:53] Diva Regina: Or, frankly, a link to an external web page with an instructor's guide all in one place.
[9:53] You: I hate external links to web pages
[9:53] You: my computer will not allow me to do both
[9:53] Diva Regina: That can be a problem.
[9:53] You: so perhaps offering both alternatives
[9:53] Solobill Laville: Or notecard for the instructor to just scroll down as appropriate
[9:53] You: inworld content duplicating outworld content
[9:53] You: multiple forms of access
[9:54] Bridget Jennings: I find that to do bith requires a dual monitor computer (I have it a work - not my laptop)
[9:54] You: yes - I asked for one,
[9:54] You: so far, no go
[9:54] Diva Regina: If I were an instructor, I'd want something meaty enough to prepare ahead of time without having to spend a lot of extra time wandering around collecting material.
[9:54] You: Good point Diva
[9:54] Bridget Jennings: I won dual monitors in a drawing at an ASEE conference
[9:55] You: lucky you!!!
[9:55] Diva Regina envies Bridget.
[9:55] You: I'm jealous :)
[9:55] Bridget Jennings: Unsual for me
[9:55] You: I won a framed photo once at a meeting
[9:55] Diva Regina: Only thing I ever won was a fleece boa.
[9:55] You: ;)
[9:55] Diva Regina: Don't ask.
[9:55] You: sounds hideous
[9:55] Memetic Projects: hehehe
[9:55] Rudolfo Woodget: Oh, and can there be pose balls in the blocks of ice, so we can encase ourselves?
[9:56] You: well, that's it for today
[9:56] Bridget Jennings: Rudy, how do I adjust the camera (once contrtosl are enabled)
[9:56] Diva Regina: Heh. Makes a good thing to tie to one's luggage so no one walks off with it.
[9:56] Memetic Projects: lol I was thinking hte same thing about poseballs to encase in ice
[9:56] You: I think we learned a lot of great stuff about user interface design in SL :)
[9:56] Solobill Laville: Yes, thanks Lexi!!! Again!
[9:56] You: My pleasure
[9:56] Rudolfo Woodget: easiest to work with the dials and the slider. It's all pitch and yaw and that other stuff.
[9:56] Diva Regina: The scripting can't be underestimated. Special effects really help here



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