Attendees: Rudolfo Woodget, Perplexity Peccable, Bridget Jennings, Philomena Flanagan, Vic Novi, Jerry Teatime, Memetic Projects, Gershom Wycliffe, Solobill Laville, Kaiya Qunhua

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Introductions

[9:05] Perplexity Peccable: Hi, Rudolfo, how are you?
[9:05] Rudolfo Woodget: Hello!
[9:06] Rudolfo Woodget: I am doing well, thank you
[9:06] Perplexity Peccable: I am hoping more people show up because I don't want to have to think hard today ...
[9:07] Perplexity Peccable: oh good!
[9:07] Perplexity Peccable: Hi, Bridget!
[9:07] Perplexity Peccable: Hi, Philomena!
[9:07] Bridget Jennings: hi
[9:07] Rudolfo Woodget: Yay! I see gray people!
[9:07] Philomena Flanagan: hi everyone
[9:07] Perplexity Peccable: Some folks look better gray ...
[9:07] Perplexity Peccable: There is an elegance to the lines
[9:07] Perplexity Peccable: Hi, Meme!

Making Clothes

[9:07] Philomena Flanagan: looking gorgeous, lexy
[9:07] Memetic Projects: howdy :)
[9:07] Perplexity Peccable: Thank you - made it
[9:08] Perplexity Peccable: The texture is Dore's adoration of the Virgin
[9:08] Rudolfo Woodget: My summer project is to learn to make a T-shirt.
[9:08] Perplexity Peccable: There are excellent templates and tutorials outworld
[9:08] Perplexity Peccable: You have to do it in Photoshop or a layer-based graphic editor
[9:08] Rudolfo Woodget: I think I have several already!
[9:09] Rudolfo Woodget: oh and learn photoshop

Groups in SL

9:09] Gershom Wycliffe: Thanks, Lexi!
[9:09] Perplexity Peccable: Hi, Gershom!
[9:09] Gershom Wycliffe: Hello!
[9:09] Perplexity Peccable: Gershop, did you not receive the messages that had the LM?
[9:09] Gershom Wycliffe: No.
[9:09] Rudolfo Woodget: Hello Gersh/Good day, Mr. Wycliffe
[9:09] Perplexity Peccable: I am wondering if you are in the groups ...
[9:10] Gershom Wycliffe: Hello Rudy/Mr. Woodget.
[9:10] Gershom Wycliffe: Not those that I had to go to a page for.
[9:10] Perplexity Peccable: Have you joined UM Second Life or SLUM?
[9:10] Gershom Wycliffe: I tried last week, but the comp wasn't very cooperative.
[9:10] Perplexity Peccable: Ah, that happens
[9:10] Rudolfo Woodget: those are both groups within SL, not the UM-based e-mail
[9:10] Perplexity Peccable: I was unable to search for people in SL earlier this week
[9:10] Perplexity Peccable: Thanks for clarifying, Rudolfo
[9:11] Gershom Wycliffe: No, I'm in neither. Only the UM-Dearborn group and the Wolverine Community.
[9:11] Rudolfo Woodget: At Dearborn, we sometimes tend to avoid the Virtual I-94 trek
[9:11] Rudolfo Woodget: except on payday
[9:11] Perplexity Peccable: If you have room, one of those (either one) would give you LMs and announcements
[9:11] Gershom Wycliffe: Do I just search and join?
[9:12] Perplexity Peccable: We are working on a better solution
[9:12] Perplexity Peccable: They are in my profile.
[9:12] Perplexity Peccable: UM Second Life you can join
[9:12] Perplexity Peccable: I think I need to invite you to SLUM
[9:12] Gershom Wycliffe: No, I just joined!
[9:13] Perplexity Peccable: Great!

Introductions continued

[9:13] Perplexity Peccable: I don't know if we all know each other.
[9:14] Perplexity Peccable: I am Lexi, aka Patricia in RL, from teh Health Sciences Libraries on the Ann Arbor Campus
[9:14] Philomena Flanagan: I am Philomena from the Language Resource Ctr, AA campus
[9:14] You: I am Kaiya/Anne in RL with HSL like Lexi.
[9:14] Bridget Jennings: I am Bridget from CIS ay UM-D (I teach software engineering and game design)
[9:14] Rudolfo Woodget: I teach writing and UM-Dearborn and am putting together an informal SL campus for us
[9:15] Perplexity Peccable: Bravo!
[9:15] Gershom Wycliffe: I teach various composition classes at UM-Dearborn.
[9:15] Perplexity Peccable: Oh, this session is beign recorded.
[9:16] Perplexity Peccable: Don't say anything you don't want shared online, or mention that it should not be recorded
[9:16] Perplexity Peccable: Hi, Solobill!
[9:16] Solobill Laville: Hello!!
[9:17] Solobill Laville: Wow, what did I just miss???
[9:17] Perplexity Peccable: SL is a happy place, for the most part
[9:17] Perplexity Peccable: Intros - that's all :)
[9:17] Perplexity Peccable: Gershom was saying he teaches
[9:17] Perplexity Peccable: Jerry! Haven't seen you in ages - welcome!
[9:18] Jerry Teatime: Thanks. It's been a while :-)
[9:18] Perplexity Peccable: We were just doing intros
[9:18] Rudolfo Woodget: Hello, Jerry. Nice to meet you.
[9:18] Perplexity Peccable: You are in science, right?
[9:18] Jerry Teatime: I work for CTools up in the Duderstadt Center
[9:18] Perplexity Peccable: My brain is befuddled - thanks :)

Working with Students in SL

[9:19] Perplexity Peccable: OK, today's topic was about working with students in SL
[9:19] Perplexity Peccable: Anyone want to start with either questions or observations or best practices?
[9:19] Gershom Wycliffe: Er... I have an idea I'd like to submit for people's comments. Is this a good time?
[9:20] Perplexity Peccable: Why not!
[9:20] Perplexity Peccable: Go for it
[9:20] Philomena Flanagan: sure
[9:20] Perplexity Peccable: Hi, Vic
[9:20] Perplexity Peccable: Vic is with School of Public Health
[9:20] Vic Novi: Hey!

Activities for Students in SL

[9:20] Gershom Wycliffe: I don't want to hog the meeting. Basically, I'm thinking of using SL next autumn, by getting my first-year comp students into it, and then having them explore various sims.
[9:20] Gershom Wycliffe: Perhaps some of the Russian or Japanese cities, for instance.
[9:21] Gershom Wycliffe: And then writing descriptions based upon what they find striking.
[9:21] Perplexity Peccable: That sounds a lot like what JS Vavoom did
[9:21] Perplexity Peccable: And Giorgio also
[9:21] Philomena Flanagan: We did that with the Italian pilot last year
[9:21] Philomena Flanagan: and it worked very well
[9:21] Gershom Wycliffe: That sounds great. What might be possible pitfalls?
[9:21] Bridget Jennings: I think that exploring culture is one of the best uses of SL right now
[9:21] Rudolfo Woodget: I'm planning a similar thing -- proably in the winter, Gershom
[9:22] Perplexity Peccable: Do you want the students exploring ina group or individually?
[9:22] Gershom Wycliffe: I've already found it's always winter in some Russian sims!
[9:22] Bridget Jennings: The biggest pit fall is the non-trivial learnign curve for the SL user interface

Student Team Leaders and Pairs Programming

[9:22] Gershom Wycliffe: I was thinking of doing linked activities... some with groups, some individually.
[9:22] Perplexity Peccable: Caia had a good solution for that, and Giorgio also
[9:22] Perplexity Peccable: They both chose team leaders
[9:23] Perplexity Peccable: and then had the team leader responsible for sharing skills with a small group
[9:23] Philomena Flanagan: you might need to prepare some for interacting with people who approach them in foreign languages
[9:23] Bridget Jennings: I thiknk that waqs a good driection to go
[9:23] Gershom Wycliffe: What are waqs?
[9:23] Perplexity Peccable: For teleporting groups, its a little messy
[9:24] Bridget Jennings: Another idea would be to do "pairs programming" during the initial trips to SL
[9:24] Gershom Wycliffe: I might intervene that much--tp myself, then get the group there.
[9:24] Perplexity Peccable: waqs = was + typo
[9:24] Gershom Wycliffe: I like the idea of the groups.
[9:24] Perplexity Peccable: I open an IM window for each person in the group,
[9:24] Perplexity Peccable: and then tp
[9:24] Bridget Jennings: In pairs programming one partner dictates the second types

Blogging, Wikis, Sloodle and Moodle

[9:24] Philomena Flanagan: Giorgios students posted their essays to a class blog
[9:24] Perplexity Peccable: cool!
[9:24] Gershom Wycliffe: I was toying with the idea of giving different groups assignments to explore certain sims, then do a Wiki page. Then letting the individuals do something on their own.
[9:25] Philomena Flanagan: including snapshots comparing the sl city with the rl city
[9:25] Bridget Jennings: Both partners collaborate on the course of action
[9:25] Perplexity Peccable: There is a SLoodle tool that allows people to blog from inworld to an external class blog
[9:25] Gershom Wycliffe: Ah! I like that. Class blog.
[9:25] Perplexity Peccable: I don't know if UM has a Moodle server anywhere, but that would make it easier
[9:25] Rudolfo Woodget: My general sense, is to be More Directive, at least at first, then we might be in the typical Comp class. When my tech writing students went in, I had some very minial goals for the first day, and most of them missed those. Even though there was money involved.
[9:25] Gershom Wycliffe: The languages are a potential problem, but not too bad.
[9:25] Philomena Flanagan: ITAL BLOG http://itpopculture.typepad.com/2008/second_life/index.html

Babel

[9:25] Gershom Wycliffe: In the Japanese sims, I find people use English rather freely, and the signs are almost all bilingual.
[9:25] Perplexity Peccable: A lot of folks in SL rely on Babel
[9:26] Philomena Flanagan: in case it will be of use for you
[9:26] Gershom Wycliffe: I the Russian sims, it's a little more challenging. I can read Russian, but am often at a loss to type anything. I can only pity my students!!!!!
[9:26] Gershom Wycliffe: Does Babel work well in SL?
[9:26] Bridget Jennings: I think the one of the first trips needs to be goal directed (perhaps with a written lab sheet)
[9:26] Perplexity Peccable: Well, folks use it and are used to it
[9:26] Perplexity Peccable: I know a teacher who taught a bilingual class
[9:27] Gershom Wycliffe: Yes, I have thought that to be necessary (being directed).
[9:27] Perplexity Peccable: depending on Babel translation for the second language (german)

Preparing Students for SL

[9:27] Philomena Flanagan: the languages are not a problem :) I really just meant preparing students for the reality of a non-ENglish world out there
[9:27] Gershom Wycliffe: No nude bathing, no battle sims...
[9:27] Gershom Wycliffe: Yes, I agree.
[9:27] Perplexity Peccable: and how do you tell the difference
[9:27] Bridget Jennings: Students need time to play in the early visits (just like elementary school science labs)
[9:28] Perplexity Peccable: play IS skills building
[9:28] Gershom Wycliffe: I grew up having to explain Polish phonetics whenever a stranger asked my family name. It really wouldn't kill Ms or Mr Public to realize not everyone speaks English with a Midwestern accent.
[9:28] Philomena Flanagan: of course not
[9:28] Gershom Wycliffe: Yes. I just don't want my students to spend class time in some of the sims...
[9:28] Rudolfo Woodget: you suggest you have stopped having to do that, Mr. Why-cliffy?
[9:29] Gershom Wycliffe: Oh... no... I haven't stopped!

Interactions with Others in SL

[9:29] Philomena Flanagan: You may actually *want* to build in interaction with natives of the cities. Giorgio did this but of course his was an italian course
[9:29] Perplexity Peccable: lol :)
[9:29] Perplexity Peccable: JS Vavoom also did
[9:29] Perplexity Peccable: His students are now having meetings with patient support groups
[9:29] Philomena Flanagan: students in the third visit, had to find s one from the rl city and ask them about life there
[9:29] Gershom Wycliffe: I've found usually the Russians either speak English or are oblivious to what I say. One gentleman speaks English and was offended that I did... we'd avoid his sim!
[9:30] Perplexity Peccable: I'm curious why you are focusing on those particular cultures
[9:30] Gershom Wycliffe: Yes, I like the idea of interaction. There are also sims where they may count on some people knowing English.
[9:31] Philomena Flanagan: stud could even explore the notions of space -- public, private, virtual
[9:31] Philomena Flanagan: after starting with the descriptive
[9:31] Gershom Wycliffe: Well... as a student of certain languages, I have liked to explore those languages. I also think of certain cultures as less likely to do things in SL that are rather... er... embarrassing to a prudish Yank.
[9:31] Perplexity Peccable: OK, this has allowed us to talk about a lot of different ways of engaging and managing students in SL
[9:31] Perplexity Peccable: Very interesting!
[9:31] Gershom Wycliffe: I like your idea, Philomena.
[9:32] Perplexity Peccable: Does anyone else have suggestions or questions?
[9:32] Perplexity Peccable: Oh, Jerry, I have a question for you
[9:32] Philomena Flanagan: it would connect the writing assignment and the context of exploring within sl
[9:32] Perplexity Peccable: About CTools
[9:32] Philomena Flanagan: a study of space

CTools in SL

[9:32] Perplexity Peccable: Does CTools talk to SL?
[9:32] Jerry Teatime: OK
[9:33] Perplexity Peccable: I know Moodle does and Angel
[9:33] Jerry Teatime: Not that I'
[9:33] Jerry Teatime: I'm aware of
[9:33] Perplexity Peccable: I couldn't find anything showing that either CTools or Sakai talk to SL
[9:33] Philomena Flanagan: what exactly do you mean by 'talk'
[9:33] Memetic Projects: actually...
[9:33] Perplexity Peccable: yes?
[9:33] Memetic Projects: I thought I read somewher ethat Saiki was getting an SL component, which wold mean Ctools as well, neh?
[9:34] Vic Novi: we could certainly post Slurls, but are we implying more tighter integration?
[9:34] Vic Novi: any examples out there to peek at?
[9:34] Perplexity Peccable: Well, there is a person who chose the name of Sakai that is doing stuff
[9:34] Perplexity Peccable: but I could not find anything about the Sakai program
[9:34] Perplexity Peccable: Much tighter integration, Vic
[9:34] Jerry Teatime: Sakai=CTools in a general sense, although we don't run all the Sakai tools
[9:34] Perplexity Peccable: Moodle has a SL backend called SLoodle
[9:35] Perplexity Peccable: It is a big topic
[9:35] Perplexity Peccable: I should ask Buddy to come talk with us about it

Tracking Student Activities

[9:35] Perplexity Peccable: The main idea for bringing it up now
[9:35] Perplexity Peccable: is because it allows you to track student activities in SL
[9:36] Perplexity Peccable: and incorporate bidirectional concent
[9:36] Vic Novi: aha
[9:36] Perplexity Peccable: students can do activities in SL that go outworld,
[9:36] Perplexity Peccable: and you can bring in web-based content
[9:36] Perplexity Peccable: interactively
[9:36] Jerry Teatime: There a lot of issues with tracking students in world
[9:36] Perplexity Peccable: Bingo
[9:37] Jerry Teatime: Generally we're pretty conservative about that
[9:37] Perplexity Peccable: SLoodle helps a lot with that
[9:37] Perplexity Peccable: even if the students are in different parts of SL
[9:37] Jerry Teatime: Another issue is passing credentials between the systems
[9:37] Perplexity Peccable: and it has opt-in opt-out portions
[9:37] Jerry Teatime: We use Cosign, not the built in Sakai authentication
[9:37] Bridget Jennings: I am not sure I should be tracking where students are in SL (any more than I should track their library activities)
[9:38] Perplexity Peccable: Only for assigned class activities
[9:38] Perplexity Peccable: if the students opt-in
[9:38] Jerry Teatime: That means any CTools/SL integration would need to work with Cosign
[9:38] Perplexity Peccable: Part of my question is why reinvent the wheel if Moodle/SLoodle already have full course management integration
[9:38] Perplexity Peccable: Angel, too
[9:39] Perplexity Peccable: But I know a bit more about SLoodle
[9:39] Bridget Jennings: I think their are other measures that should be used for learning
[9:39] Philomena Flanagan: cause we're Michigan, Lexy
[9:39] Perplexity Peccable: Bridget, what do you mean?
[9:39] Vic Novi: I'd like to know a few more bits about Sloodle, lexi

Sloodle

[9:39] Perplexity Peccable: SLoodle allows integration between SL content and activities and the Moodle course management system
[9:40] Jerry Teatime: system use ≠ learning
[9:40] Bridget Jennings: I not sure I get much out of watching kids work
[9:40] Perplexity Peccable: For example, in a discussion like this one
[9:40] Bridget Jennings: I get more out of seeing their artifacts based on their expereinces
[9:40] Perplexity Peccable: if we have a Moodle class, there would be a box that could capture the chatlog as people opt-in and opt-out
[9:40] Philomena Flanagan: I was thinking the same, Bridget
[9:40] Perplexity Peccable: Bridget - SLoodle has a chatHUD that allows students to blog from SL to the course blog
[9:41] Bridget Jennings: capturing the chat log may be workth while
[9:41] Perplexity Peccable: makes it easier for students to record observations at point of contact
[9:41] Vic Novi: thats cool and valuable Blogging HUD
[9:41] Philomena Flanagan: but I can see that it would be convenient for many if there were interconnectedness
[9:41] Perplexity Peccable: would be useful especially in patient interaction simulations
[9:41] Perplexity Peccable: or interviews
[9:41] Perplexity Peccable: those are just a couple examples
[9:41] Perplexity Peccable: there is a lot more
[9:42] Perplexity Peccable: there are also games being built with SLoodle backends to manage the gaming data
[9:42] Perplexity Peccable: who participates and what content or particiaption occured
[9:42] Gershom Wycliffe: I'll confess to ignorance here--what are backends, besides the things meeting the tree stumps right now?
[9:42] Bridget Jennings: I agree, but wouldn't a patient write-up based on the interaction be more meaningful (higher level on Bloom's taxonomy any way)

Voice Interactions

[9:42] Jerry Teatime: How do you account for voice interactions?
[9:42] Perplexity Peccable: Wow - where to start
[9:43] Perplexity Peccable: Gershop - backend would be a computer behind teh scenes
[9:43] Perplexity Peccable: "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain"
[9:43] Gershom Wycliffe: I think I get it. Thanks, Glinda!
[9:43] Perplexity Peccable: Blooms taxonomy - sure :) but offer a range of activities
[9:43] Perplexity Peccable: look at the potential
[9:43] Perplexity Peccable: I'm sure you can do highend activities as wella s entry level
[9:44] Perplexity Peccable: the point of the system is managing the contributions to make it easier for the teacher to assess
[9:44] Perplexity Peccable: voice interactions
[9:44] Perplexity Peccable: I have no idea :)
[9:44] Perplexity Peccable: Would have to ask the SLoodle gurus
[9:44] Gershom Wycliffe: Would you want to include voice, since many people can't utilize it?
[9:44] Perplexity Peccable: There's an issue!
[9:44] Perplexity Peccable: Voice in teaching - yay or nay
[9:45] Perplexity Peccable: and why
[9:45] Philomena Flanagan: well, they could be recorded, no? and uploaded as an artifact
[9:45] Bridget Jennings: Voice is nice - if you have one speaker and controlled question asking
[9:45] Perplexity Peccable: Good point, Bridget
[9:45] Philomena Flanagan: or for one on one conversations, obviously
[9:45] Solobill Laville: In IDLs, the instructor's have the ability to allow individuals to be "on air"
[9:45] Gershom Wycliffe: RAther like some of the College of Second Life courses, I think.
[9:46] Bridget Jennings: I am surprised at how slow SL can be even when a dozen people enter a region at the same time
[9:46] Perplexity Peccable: I find in large groups, people with voice tend to exclude those without
[9:46] Philomena Flanagan: would need to establish voice guidelines if a structured meeting context
[9:46] Rudolfo Woodget: And name-calling: "muties"
[9:46] Perplexity Peccable: ouch
[9:46] Memetic Projects: lol
[9:46] Bridget Jennings: I have giga bit connection and was frozen till everyone settled into a seat
[9:47] Perplexity Peccable: You can capture teh audio, but it takes a lot more computer power than most folk have

Chatlog Captures vs. Voice

[9:47] Perplexity Peccable: capturing chatlog is more accessible
[9:47] Bridget Jennings: I like captuiorng the chat - it's compact and easier to shaer by e-mail or web site
[9:48] Perplexity Peccable: so true!
[9:48] Memetic Projects: voice is like music... a medium based in time..... it takes more tiem to listen to a conversation than it does to read the chatlog usually.
[9:48] Perplexity Peccable: yes!
[9:48] Perplexity Peccable: and skimming voice takes special training
[9:48] Perplexity Peccable: high-speed audio is hard for people who aren't used to it
[9:49] Philomena Flanagan: as with everything .. it will all depend on the goal of the interaction
[9:49] Vic Novi: true
[9:49] Perplexity Peccable: Both modes of communication exclude some people
[9:49] Perplexity Peccable: people with hearing problems have trouble with voice
[9:49] Perplexity Peccable: dyslexics have trouble with chat
[9:49] Memetic Projects: the new RC client is supposed to have lip sync tied to the voice feature
[9:50] Perplexity Peccable: that is for show, tho, right?
[9:50] Gershom Wycliffe: Does that mean the avi will mouth the words?
[9:50] Memetic Projects: yah
[9:50] Perplexity Peccable: they aren't trying to make it possible to lipread?
[9:50] Memetic Projects: yup
[9:50] Memetic Projects: nope
[9:50] Perplexity Peccable: so cosmetic mostly
[9:50] Perplexity Peccable: for realism
[9:50] Bridget Jennings: My daughter is dyslexic and uses IM and text messaging all the time
[9:50] Babbler3.17:
[9:50] Memetic Projects: I would be amazed if they could pull off that level of detai lwith these avatar wireframes
[9:51] Perplexity Peccable: Interesting, but I don't think that changes how we use them
[9:51] Vic Novi: why do I keep gettnig a " Babbler3.17: " in the middle of the chats? Is someone watching?
[9:51] Perplexity Peccable: One of my friends is severely dyslexic and can only use chat with dragon speak
[9:51] Memetic Projects: someone is wearing a Babbler translater and has it turned on
[9:51] Perplexity Peccable: We were talking about teh babbler tool
[9:51] Perplexity Peccable: maybe someone wore theirs
[9:51] Vic Novi: aha
[9:51] Vic Novi: sorry for the disruptive question
[9:51] Vic Novi: thanks
[9:51] Perplexity Peccable: Mine is no trans, or I'd give copies away
[9:52] Babbler3.17:
[9:52] Bridget Jennings: Mouth animation is pretend even in the best video games right now
[9:52] Memetic Projects: yah
[9:52] Perplexity Peccable: we'll get there, eventually
[9:52] Gershom Wycliffe: Won't teaching with dyslexic students be like any other situation? Sometimes we need to change strategies in a real life classroom, too.
[9:52] Perplexity Peccable: I think it may confuse some people, but then we'll adjust
[9:52] Perplexity Peccable: Yes, indeed
[9:52] Perplexity Peccable: my point was bein overt and aware of these issues in teaching
[9:53] Perplexity Peccable: some students may not be upfront about having that sort of trouble
[9:53] Perplexity Peccable: not to mention tech
[9:53] Perplexity Peccable: I can't use voice because of tech problems
[9:53] Gershom Wycliffe: I have trouble understanding it! Background noise is often bad.
[9:53] Perplexity Peccable: YES!!
[9:53] Bridget Jennings: that was going to be my next comment (no one the UM will admit to be a tech illierate - even when it's obvioous they are)
[9:53] Perplexity Peccable: I turn audio off to avoid distraction
[9:53] Perplexity Peccable: that is another issue -
[9:54] Perplexity Peccable: persons with autism spectrum disorders or related sensory issues
[9:54] Perplexity Peccable: may have trouble with audio
[9:54] Perplexity Peccable: Well, my problem is the type of computer I'm one, Bridget
[9:55] Perplexity Peccable: You cannot activiate SL voice on a MacBOok,
[9:55] Perplexity Peccable: at least according to the dozen experts I've consulted
[9:55] Memetic Projects: o.O
[9:55] Bridget Jennings: I don;t think you are illirate at all (quite the contray - you are great)
[9:55] Perplexity Peccable: You can on other macs :) - thanks
[9:55] Philomena Flanagan: Oh Bridget we have several fac who make no bones about it. Or do you mean students?

Wrap-Up and Future Brown Bags

[9:55] Perplexity Peccable: So, about time to call it time
[9:56] Perplexity Peccable: I will try to set up a SLoodle talk
[9:56] Perplexity Peccable: and we can linger as long as folks want :)
[9:56] Bridget Jennings: Students (and my students at that)\
[9:56] Philomena Flanagan: nods
[9:56] Perplexity Peccable: This as a very dynamic and useful discussion!
[9:56] Perplexity Peccable: Thank you all so much for coming!
[9:56] Vic Novi: yes, thanks
[9:56] Philomena Flanagan: yes, thanks to all
[9:57] Vic Novi: have a g'weekend
[9:57] Jerry Teatime: I'd be interested in participating in a Sloodle discussion
[9:57] Jerry Teatime: So I can learn more
[9:57] Bridget Jennings: I like to learn more about Sloodle and probably won't do ti on my own
[9:57] Jerry Teatime: I know there is a lot of interest in CTools integration
[9:57] Jerry Teatime: But getting resources dedicated is another matter
[9:57] Perplexity Peccable: I will send a message to secondlifeed with more SLoodle links and info
[9:57] Rudolfo Woodget: I would be very intrested in that, Jerry
[9:57] Rudolfo Woodget: ah, yes!
[9:57] Perplexity Peccable: and ask the SLoodle gurus if they would speak to us some week
[9:58] Philomena Flanagan: sounds good
[9:58] Gershom Wycliffe: I should like to know more about CTools integration, also. And SLoodle, though I know nothing yet. It sounds promising.
[9:58] Jerry Teatime: Sounds good. Thanks for organizing today's talk
[9:58] Perplexity Peccable: My pleasure :)
[9:58] Solobill Laville: Yes, this was great, Lexi! Thanks everyone!
[9:58] Philomena Flanagan: bye
[9:58] Gershom Wycliffe: Good bye!
[9:59] Jerry Teatime: Unfortunately Fridays at noon is a bad time for me; but I'll try to make more chats in the future
[9:59] Perplexity Peccable: bye Philomena!
[9:59] Perplexity Peccable: What is a better time, Jerry?
[9:59] Perplexity Peccable: Someone suggested Wednesday or Tuesdays, which are bad for me
[9:59] Jerry Teatime: Tues and Thurs are best for me
[9:59] Perplexity Peccable: Did you fill out our survey?
[10:00] Jerry Teatime: I think so -- it was a few weeks ago right?
[10:00] Perplexity Peccable: yes - excelletn :)
[10:00] Gershom Wycliffe: Well, for what it isn't worth--Fridays are actually best for me.
[10:00] Bridget Jennings: I like the BB on Fridays - but would support special events on other days (it I were not teachgin)
[10:00] Jerry Teatime: Thanks all -- ciao!
[10:00] Memetic Projects: see you:)
[10:01] Bridget Jennings: bye
[10:01] Solobill Laville: So long.
[10:01] Perplexity Peccable: We could try to do a couple other days, if folks want to help coordinate